tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4731675766765556007.post7394151082904135744..comments2023-06-20T03:38:10.473-07:00Comments on Walter Pall Bonsai Articles: Pattern recognition in judging bonsai - EnglishWalter Pallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08398046016738136730noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4731675766765556007.post-6212715934893183172016-02-11T20:21:45.375-08:002016-02-11T20:21:45.375-08:00It's a classic conundrum.. Anything that requi...It's a classic conundrum.. Anything that requires a high level of training to do well is often (but not always) more deeply appreciated by those who have knowledge of what's involved (eg a classical piano performance) .. But who is 'right' in judging the performance as 'good' or 'bad'? Surely the lay person who is overwhelmed w amazement of the experience is not to be ignored.. But most would say that is not the right person to judge it as 'good' or 'bad.' <br /><br />In bonsai, just like in classical music, I think there is something to be said for the technical component and attention to detail and effort applied to the tree, on one hand, and then the artistic effect. The technical aspect is more likely easily judged and less debated about .. Of course the artistic value will be endlessly debated by who is 'right' and why, and why is this persons opinion important and not that one. <br /><br />On a personal note.. (As I am early to bonsai) my biggest fear is becoming an 'accomplished' craftsmen but a terrible artist (aside from being a complete failure of course!) and of course only finding this out years later. I bring this up only to highlight the reality that being a good craftsmen is likely possible with effort alone 'following the rules' and minimal 'talent,' while being a true artist is certainly a higher and harder ideal to achieve - and to judge! <br /><br />Regarding elitism and pattern recognition I feel it is an impossible reality of the human mind to try and escape - as you said everyone forms their ideas of 'good and bad' and judge thenceforth - I think the best way to protect against this is keeping an overall positive and open mind and recognizing your own biases ... and also recognizing objective effort and an artists own sense of success in realizing his/her vision. Jackson Pollock artwork may be 'a bunch of spatter' but somehow most still recognize there was effort and design put into it, even if it doesn't appeal to their taste. <br /><br />Certainly an interesting topic for discussion. <br /><br />Best,<br /><br />Bryan Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11629820047301557378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4731675766765556007.post-11094738590891396522009-10-28T11:06:15.714-07:002009-10-28T11:06:15.714-07:00Walter, since now i have had translated four of yo...Walter, since now i have had translated four of your articles, but i <br />didnt comment any of them with you. So, i would like to do it now.<br /><br />As in the Kung Fu, we need to rationalize every movement, every knowledge <br />in the learning progress, just in the end of it, you need to forget <br />everything, only this way you will really learn in fact. This is because <br />your right side of the brain will forget the rules, the shapes, the <br />patterns, but your left side was learning side-by-side with your right one, but <br />this side didnt forget, it is your subconscious.<br /><br />This is my way to explain how the learning took place on the bonsai knowledge.<br /><br />What do you think?Arzivenkohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07882952806778919181noreply@blogger.com